Army Wife

[xduffyx2003]

Hay, I just have a few questions, and maybe would like a little advice.
I have been married for 5 years, and it has been rocky. I’m a Sergeant in the army, and I’m always deployed to one place or another. Over my last deployment to Baghdad I was told by her, that she was messing around with other guys. I was very upset at her and went to one of them Asian massage places, and paid for extra stuff. I was sorry for what I did, and told her. It was one time, it was a mistake, and I can say that I never did it again. There was no emotion, just me trying to feel a little better after she told me she was with other guys sexually. She said she never had sex with them, but did everything ells. She told me it was my fault because of the way I treated her. Her mother said she did nothing wrong, and that she had every reason to do so.
When I returned from my deployment she was very quiet, and very secretive. Over time she told me she had sex with another man once, a few weeks later it was twice, and then she told me over five times. She also explained that they had anal sex, which is something that I and she never even did, that was a really bad feeling. She told me in detail about what she did, and why she did it. She said it was 90% my fault because of how a treat here, like always. She said what she did isn’t as bad as treating her horrible for such a long time. Everything is always my fault.

I forgave her, and tried to move on. After all that has happened, I went over a friend’s house to eat dinner with his family, and play a little war craft. When I came home she was still out, and I was upset. In the morning she comes in and explains that she messed up, and was out kissing a guy, and who knows what ells. I don’t think that I know everything, but I told her to never do it again. It was her last chance.
I then attend recruiting school which took me away from home for another 8 weeks, and guess what? She had this guy over, and I found a dew rag in my couch. It has become a pattern, and caused me to file. She has contacted me begging for another chance, and told me she will never hurt me again.

1. If your wife has anal sex with another man, is it different then if she had virginal? What does it mean?
2. Is this ground for divorce?
3. Is what I did once just as bad?
4. Do you think it’s a good idea to consider going back to her?
Sorry for the grammar

[sadpatricia]

Look,
You both seem like you have some growing up to do. With that said, the minute she informed you of the first time she cheated on you with just kissing or even thinking about another guy, your marriage was in deep trouble. She sounds like a nymphomaniac - a woman that likes to have a lot a sex with a lot of different guys. STAY AWAY from her. Don't touch her with a ten-foot pole. She is trouble. Now, don't go to another massage parlor and get laid to get back at her - you might catch something from one of those women. Your wife might consider becoming employed by one of those parlors - she MIGHT AS WELL get PAID for putting out to all these guys - especially if she's going for anal sex. Look, soldier, she's a sleaze-bag. Dump her. Get evidence of her infidelity first - pictures, e-mails, credit card bills - see a lawyer and dump her a$$. Get back at her and/or make yourself feel better by filing for divorce ASAP. As I said to another soldier on this site, I am ex-Army and you need a lot more support than what this f*** bag is giving you.
sadpatricia

[tomasingm]

Hay, I just have a few questions, and maybe would like a little advice.
I have been married for 5 years, and it has been rocky. I’m a Sergeant in the army, and I’m always deployed to one place or another. Over my last deployment to Baghdad I was told by her, that she was messing around with other guys. I was very upset at her and went to one of them Asian massage places, and paid for extra stuff. I was sorry for what I did, and told her. It was one time, it was a mistake, and I can say that I never did it again. There was no emotion, just me trying to feel a little better after she told me she was with other guys sexually. She said she never had sex with them, but did everything ells. She told me it was my fault because of the way I treated her. Her mother said she did nothing wrong, and that she had every reason to do so.
When I returned from my deployment she was very quiet, and very secretive. Over time she told me she had sex with another man once, a few weeks later it was twice, and then she told me over five times. She also explained that they had anal sex, which is something that I and she never even did, that was a really bad feeling. She told me in detail about what she did, and why she did it. She said it was 90% my fault because of how a treat here, like always. She said what she did isn’t as bad as treating her horrible for such a long time. Everything is always my fault.

I forgave her, and tried to move on. After all that has happened, I went over a friend’s house to eat dinner with his family, and play a little war craft. When I came home she was still out, and I was upset. In the morning she comes in and explains that she messed up, and was out kissing a guy, and who knows what ells. I don’t think that I know everything, but I told her to never do it again. It was her last chance.
I then attend recruiting school which took me away from home for another 8 weeks, and guess what? She had this guy over, and I found a dew rag in my couch. It has become a pattern, and caused me to file. She has contacted me begging for another chance, and told me she will never hurt me again.

1. If your wife has anal sex with another man, is it different then if she had virginal? What does it mean?
2. Is this ground for divorce?
3. Is what I did once just as bad?
4. Do you think it’s a good idea to consider going back to her?
Sorry for the grammar


First thigns first your wife is a *****, and so is her mom if she feels her daughter did nothing wrong. It is one thing for a braod to cheat but another when her husband in isin harm's way. Dovirce her, not only is she not sorry it is just a matter of time befor eshe does it again and her ***** mom as a cheerleader will only encourage her. Bail out, dont walk away run away. Sucking **** is nasty to, okay.....

[Flynn]

Either run for the hills or write out your will because she is sex tour with every guy in town that will only end with her contracting a sexual disease or HIV. I find it unusal that a cheater would be so honest about all the sexual details. If you stay after all this you deserve all that will happen to you. You knew she cheated on you multiple times again after getting caught then pleaded for another chance....you leave for a long school and boom she is cheating again. What did Forrest Gump say "Stupid is as Stupid does". :(

[Skirtchaser]

Hey Sad Sack,

I'm not convinced your post is for real. You ask a lot of odd questions for a first time poster. When you posted your rank here, why did'nt you post it as Sgt ? Most people do. Hmm.

But to be fair, I'll play along. Yes what you did was bad. Your a cheater as well. What were you thinking when you said your vows to her? Were they meaningless words? You should have done the honorable thing of breaking it off with her before you went whor.eing. There is NO excuse for cheating.

As for your cheating wife, leave her, she will not change. She will bang away every time you leave. A dog or a cat will be more loyal to you than her. She can't be fixed. The question is, can You?

Now if you are truly a serviceman serving our country, I will say in front of all in this forum, Thank you for serving our country. :cool:

[Skirtchaser]

Either run for the hills or write out your will because she is sex tour with every guy in town that will only end with her contracting a sexual disease or HIV. I find it unusal that a cheater would be so honest about all the sexual details. If you stay after all this you deserve all that will happen to you. You knew she cheated on you multiple times again after getting caught then pleaded for another chance....you leave for a long school and boom she is cheating again. What did Forrest Gump say "Stupid is as Stupid does". :(

Sometimes there aren't enough rocks.:rolleyes:

[HIFIVE0]

Hey Buddy,
I Will Give You Some Good Advice. You Wrote A Whole Crapload About Her On Here, But Im Sure You Left Out Alot About What You Did To Her As Well. Essentially What You Did On Here Was Try To Make Yourself Out To Look Like An Angel, And That Doesnt Cut It Because Nobody Is An Angel, And That Includes You. You Make It Sound Like Going Out To Some S**t Massage Parlor Was Somehow An O.k. Thing To Do Because You Were Mad. You Made A Point To Say You "did It Only One Time, And Had No Emotion". Well Guess What Sergeant, What You Did To Your Woman Probably Affected Her More Than You Know. You Listed A Whole Lot Of Crap And Ragged On Here, And It Looks To Me Like You Are On Here Not For Our Advice, But Just To Rag On Her And Get People To S**t On Her Much Like You Did Yourself In The Parlor, Get My Drift? What Else Went On During Your Time Together? You Describe Her As Quiet And Secretive. Ill Be She Was Not Either When You Two Hit If Off. What Changed Her? What Happened To Cause Quiet And Secretive? Because Ill Tell Ya This People Dont Just Become Quiet Or Secretive For The Hell Of It. There Is Definately Something You Are Not Telling Us Here. I Sense You Left A Lot Out And From What I Read, You Gave Bits And Pieces And Made Her Out To Look Like The Bad Guy If You Will. If She Told You In Detail Face To Face About What She Did, She Is Truly Sorry, And No I Dont Agree With "sadpatricia" Who Called Your Woman A Few Choice Names And Doesnt Even Know Her Or The Entire Story To Begin With. If Anything You Should Be Angry At Any Person On Here Who Disrespected Your Woman In That Way. Know Why? Because If You Took The Time To Write A Post Like That, You Dont Want To Leave Her And You Dont Not Love Her. If You Took The Time To Write That, You Do Love Her. Dont Try And Fool Anyone On Here, You Are Just Venting. This "everything Is Always My Fault" Line That You Put In Your Post Im Not Buying That One Either. Im Pretty Sure That A Woman Who Told You Point Blank To Your Face Everything She Did With Other Men Is Not Going To Point Her Finger Completely At You And Say You Made Me Do It. And If She Did Point Her Finger In Your Face And Say You Made Me Do It, Then Yes You Were A Fool For Not Leaving Then And There. Im Not Therapist, But You Stayed Because You Know More Than Likely You Were A Large Part Of What Went So Wrong And Why The Two Of You Cheated On Each Other. Now To Answer A Few Of Your 4 Questions 1. Anal Sex Or Vaginal Sex , Sex Is Sex. Why Are You Trying To Figure That One Out? You Said You And She Never Did It And Thats A Sad Feeling To Know It Happened With Another Dude And Not You Buddy, But Sex Is Sex And Im Sure If You Were With Her Right Now She Might Want To Do It With You Too. 2. Grounds For Divorce? Thats Up To The Couple. If You Are In Love, If You Are Still Hurt, If You Feel Like You Have Unfinished Business , If You Can Not Imagine Starting Over With Another Woman, If You Want Your Woman By Your Side Then No It Is Not. If You Have Not Gone To Counseling, If You Have Not Sought Out God And Went To The Place Of Worship Of Your Denomination You Did Not Exhaust All Your Options. Grounds For Divorce Can Be Anything But It Is Up To The Couple How Much They Are Willing To Put A Bad Situation Behind Them And Work For The Better. If You Are Unable To Work Together For The Better And If You No Longer Love Her, If You Are Unable To Have Sex With Her Or Be Close To Her Ever Again, Then I Would Consider Divorce. 3. To Be Honest With You Buddy, I Cant Believe You Would Even Ask Number Three. Is What You Did Just As Bad? Yes, It Is Just As Bad, So Before You Go Around Pointing At Her For Being A Cheater, Remember That You Are A Cheater As Well. And No, I Dont Believe That Once A Cheater Always A Cheater Crap. Thats A Myth, And Anybody Who Repeats A Myth Is Somebody Who Was Burned Too Many Times. What You Did To That Woman Of Yours Was Absolutely Horrible And Inexcusable. Why Didnt She Divorce You On The Spot For That? Theres A Question For You. Do Not Play The Innocent Victim Here, You Are Definately Not One And If You Think You Are You Need To Snap Out Of It And Wake Up My Friend. Just Because You Said It Was "one Time" And You Did It To "feel Better" Doesnt Make It Right. You Sound Very Self Centered Saying That, And You Dont Sound Like You Even Considered How It Made Her Feel. And Finally 4. If You Love Her, You Should Do Anything In Your Power To Get Her Back. Thats If You Love Her, And You Want A Life Together And Are Willing To Fight For That Together. If She Will Never Hurt You Again And Is Really Sorry For What She Did, If The Pattern Was Broken And She Wants That Chance, You Should Give It To Her. But Thats Up To You. Nobody On Here Can Tell You What To Do, Just Throw Some Advice Your Way. If You Are In Love With This Woman, Let Her Know It, And Dont Waste Time Going Back To Her. Time Is A Thief And It Is Not On Anyone's Side In Life. Dont Let Your Time Run Out Until It Is Too Late. I Would Say To Give Her One Last Chance And See If The Pattern Is Broken. And For All These People Who Called Your Woman Names, They Are A Disgrace. Calling Names Is Never An Answer And Is Never Justified. Of All The People On Here Who Called Her Names, Are All Of Their Hands Clean? Ill Bet Not On That One. You Asked So Many Questions Because You Love This Woman, And Chances Are She Loves You Too. If You Are A Believer In God And In Miracles, And You Are Willing To Take Her Back Into Your Life And For Her To Take You Back Into Yours, Then Good Things Will Happen. If You Are Going To Play The Victim And Vent To Get People To Put Her Down, Then No Nothing Will Last For You Two. I Think You Need To Confront Yourself And What You Contributed To The Disaster Your Marriage Became. It Is Never One Person, Its Both And I Am Sure You Were A Contributor Although You Play It Off Like You Were Not. When You Can Admit To All Of Your Mistakes Like She Admitted To You When She Told You The Details Of What Went On, Then You Have A Fighting Chance. Im In The Army As Well, And I Have Been Through The Same Thing With My Wife, Same Rocky Marriage. That Is Why I Took The Time To Reply Post This. Been There Done That If You Will Call It That. My Wife And I Cheated On Each Other And We Broke The Pattern And Called All The Bs In Our Life Quits Because We Realized That We Did Not Want To Start All Over Again With Another Person Because We Love Each Other Too Much. I Wish You All The Best With Whatever Your Decision Is. Godspeed My Friend.

[Skirtchaser]

Hey whoa,
"Our advice?"

Don't cluster the other posters here with yourself buddy. I expect that kind of post from someone who has cheated.
Angel? No, but I have lived my life with some moral values, I don't lie steal or cheat. Evidently you can't say the same.

Lay off sadpatricia.:cool:

[HIFIVE0]

Yeah I Bet You Dont Lie, Cheat Or Steal And Never Have. You Just Lied. See You In Hell Along With Everyone Else. And For Your Information, Sad Patricia Got It Right When She Said She Was Sad. She Sure Is A Sad Sack. Anyone Who Jumps To Attack Somebody They Dont Even Know Is Exactly That. Any Anyone Who Calls Somebody A Nymphomaniac Without Even Knowing The Proper Definition Of The Word Before She Throws The Term At Somebody Is Not The Person To Be Handing Out Advice. Thats The Last Of My Breath I Will Waste On You For The Night. My Post Was For The Person Who Asked For Good Advice, Not For You Who Cant Give Advice To Save Your Life. Get A Life Lol.

[Skirtchaser]

That's good bub, you won't last long in this forum spreading your discord.

By the way, where's your wifey at tonight?:cool:

[HIFIVE0]

anyone that would listen to an ounce of advice from you is a solid gold moron. any other stupid comments you have to post go unanswered. the guy asked for advice, and i gave it to him. you gave nothing except tell the guy you think his post isnt "real". very smart you are. Not.

[Skirtchaser]

Last breath? Guess that was a lie as well. :cool:

[Skirtchaser]

I'm impressed. It usually takes someone a lot longer to figure out I'm a moron. Your a funny guy.:cool:

I doubt Patricia's sad as you. So was the three men you cheated with the same three that your wife cheated with?

[xduffyx2003]

Wow, lots of emotion here. The last thing I thought someone would question is if I was a soldier. Anyway, thanks for the advice. This is a very active forum. As for some of the feedback Im a little shocked. Like the long post.

[Skirtchaser]

Wow, lots of emotion here. The last thing I thought someone would question is if I was a soldier. Anyway, thanks for the advice. This is a very active forum. As for some of the feedback Im a little shocked. Like the long post.

The best forum by far. You will find cheaters who post here aren't welcomed. We get a lot of posts that are not for real. If you are, then your welcome here. Was just strange some of your questions. No harm no foul.

[breemood]

Yeah I Bet You Dont Lie, Cheat Or Steal And Never Have. You Just Lied. See You In Hell Along With Everyone Else. And For Your Information, Sad Patricia Got It Right When She Said She Was Sad. She Sure Is A Sad Sack. Anyone Who Jumps To Attack Somebody They Dont Even Know Is Exactly That. Any Anyone Who Calls Somebody A Nymphomaniac Without Even Knowing The Proper Definition Of The Word Before She Throws The Term At Somebody Is Not The Person To Be Handing Out Advice. Thats The Last Of My Breath I Will Waste On You For The Night. My Post Was For The Person Who Asked For Good Advice, Not For You Who Cant Give Advice To Save Your Life. Get A Life Lol.

You don't come on here attacking senior members. Don't dish what you can't take, because you will have people on here who will take a stand.:mad:

[breemood]

Wow, lots of emotion here. The last thing I thought someone would question is if I was a soldier. Anyway, thanks for the advice. This is a very active forum. As for some of the feedback Im a little shocked. Like the long post.

We get a lot of trolls here. The ow in my situation has been on a couple of forums causing problems. As mods we try to protect the site from the people who just try to inflame. We don't delete 95% of the posts, unless pesonal info is given and a few other reasons. It is a free site.

[sadpatricia]

Skirt and Bree:
I guess I ruffled a few of "cap" happy's feathers...Wow, it must have taken a while to key like that...and he didn't double capitalize once! Thanks for sticking up for me. I'll try to not shoot off my mouth from the get-go. BUT, she does seem like a f***ing wh**re to me! As for "cap" happy, as he waits for the "miracle" advice he gave the soldier, please stick to tangible solutions and please try not to attack me. As he pointed out for the lack of justification for my attack, he "doesn't even know me." Yep, I am sad. He hit the nail right on the head. In fact, I am very, very, very, very, very sad that my kids have lost their dad.
Sincerely,
Sadpatricia

[xduffyx2003]

Being military I see a lot of the cheating. Its really sad when you deploy and most of the married soldiers have short term girlfriends. People you would never expect, are the first ones to buckle. It is almost normal now, accepted in many ways.

[Skirtchaser]

Skirt and Bree:
I guess I ruffled a few of "cap" happy's feathers...Wow, it must have taken a while to key like that...and he didn't double capitalize once! Thanks for sticking up for me. I'll try to not shoot off my mouth from the get-go. BUT, she does seem like a f***ing wh**re to me! As for "cap" happy, as he waits for the "miracle" advice he gave the soldier, please stick to tangible solutions and please try not to attack me. As he pointed out for the lack of justification for my attack, he "doesn't even know me." Yep, I am sad. He hit the nail right on the head. In fact, I am very, very, very, very, very sad that my kids have lost their dad.
Sincerely,
Sadpatricia

No apologies. You keep posting what you see and feel in the posts. Don't try to tone down your post, that's sugar coating. Someone might not like what they hear, but truth is necessary. Don't change a thing, except smile when you read this.:o

Ole fiveo is an admitted cheater, no one here gives a shi.t about his opinion. He's just noise. Don't worry about popping off, post what you see and how you perceive it. Don't worry about anyone else.

You'll not always be sad. Trust me.

[breemood]

Wouldn't be the first time that an op showed up here. Hell, I was monitored by the former deacon and the ow. She even followed me to Infidelity.com and posted. Just know it isn't uncommon.

[Skirtchaser]

The post by HIFIVEO maybe Im not following this, he is saying he and his wife worked out their differences that they both were adulterers and they moved on? Why was he even here on this site? When did FIVEO become a member, after duff made his post?
Call me a moron too, but that post seemed awfully personal like "he" knew duff. I smell a rat.

They both joined ll=10=08, could they both be the same person?:rolleyes: Naw, but it could be the om posting for his wife.

The ip addresses are not the same, nor is the server.

[xduffyx2003]

I didn't know you could track IP's here. Any way to find out there the ip came from? And what do you mean by another server? I have a feeling it was the ex, but it dont sound like her. I dont know. Back to my wow..

[Skirtchaser]

I'll pm you duffie.

[Skirtchaser]

So, Duffie,

does that give you any idea on who fiveo really is?

[xduffyx2003]

Came from the same area where i had the problems in the first place.. NY

[MuffinMan]

There was no emotion, just me trying to feel a little better after she told me she was with other guys sexually. She said she never had sex with them, but did everything ells. She told me it was my fault because of the way I treated her. Her mother said she did nothing wrong, and that she had every reason to do so.

Then you should tell both her and her mother to go to hell.

If she was unhappy with the way you treated her and her words have validity, then she should have either told you, or left the marriage.

F#cking other men behind your back while you are deployed risking your life for your country is the act of an unscrupulous, ****ty b!tch.

I never condone it, but you ought to go out and cheat yourself, tell her and her mother you did and say, "well, you cheated on me, therefore I did nothing wrong since it is 90% her fault".

I bet you their attitude on cheating changes then.


When I returned from my deployment she was very quiet, and very secretive. Over time she told me she had sex with another man once, a few weeks later it was twice, and then she told me over five times. She also explained that they had anal sex, which is something that I and she never even did, that was a really bad feeling.

Oh man, just divorce the wh0re. Really, why would you even want her now?



She told me in detail about what she did, and why she did it. She said it was 90% my fault because of how a treat here, like always. She said what she did isn’t as bad as treating her horrible for such a long time.

Well of course she is going to say anything to make it look like she is the victim here. Sorry, she isn't.


Everything is always my fault.

Its called gaslighting and its a form of abuse.


I forgave her, and tried to move on. After all that has happened, I went over a friend’s house to eat dinner with his family, and play a little war craft. When I came home she was still out, and I was upset. In the morning she comes in and explains that she messed up, and was out kissing a guy, and who knows what ells.


I've heard enough!!! You forgave her and she went out and did it again.

DIVORCE this c#nt.



I don’t think that I know everything, but I told her to never do it again. It was her last chance.
I then attend recruiting school which took me away from home for another 8 weeks, and guess what? She had this guy over, and I found a dew rag in my couch. It has become a pattern, and caused me to file. She has contacted me begging for another chance, and told me she will never hurt me again.


GOOD FOR YOU!!! Don't give her another chance because she doesn't deserve it.

let her go off and have anal sex til her heart is content and know that she will be in the doctor's office sometime soon with a needls stuck in her ass to remove those painful, and well deserved, hemorrhoids.


1. If your wife has anal sex with another man, is it different then if she had virginal? What does it mean?

If your wife would do things with another man that she wouldn't do with you, it means she is a wh0re, as if cheating doesn't make her enough of one.


2. Is this ground for divorce?

Cheating along is grounds for divorce. You can file under the grounds of adultery.



3. Is what I did once just as bad?

Probably, but it was her fault, right? If she can use that excuse, so can you.


4. Do you think it’s a good idea to consider going back to her?

F#CK NO!!! You leave her on the street where she belongs, with the rest of the trash.

Trust me my man, if you don't, you WILL regret it.

[MuffinMan]

Hey Buddy,
I Will Give You Some Good Advice. You Wrote A Whole Crapload About Her On Here, But Im Sure You Left Out Alot About What You Did To Her As Well. Essentially What You Did On Here Was Try To Make Yourself Out To Look Like An Angel, And That Doesnt Cut It Because Nobody Is An Angel, And That Includes You.

Correct, but that doesn't give her the right to f#ck other men and blame it on him.



You Make It Sound Like Going Out To Some S**t Massage Parlor Was Somehow An O.k. Thing To Do Because You Were Mad.

Uh, no, he said it wasn't the right thing to do and knows it was wrong.

he confessed to her, as she did him. Only one problem, after she confessed and he forgave her, SHE DID IT AGAIN.


I Sense You Left A Lot Out And From What I Read, You Gave Bits And Pieces And Made Her Out To Look Like The Bad Guy If You Will.

Well if he forgave her and she still cheated on him, then yes, she IS the bad guy.



If She Told You In Detail Face To Face About What She Did, She Is Truly Sorry


Wrong. He forgave her after her confession, and she went out and CHEATED AGAIN.....and AGAIN.

Sorry, we know you are a cheater and will say whatever helps justify what you did.

Once someone confesses, and forgivness is given, not once, but TWICE, and the person cheats again, then they are f#cked in the head and YES, they are the "bad guy".

he should have divorced her after he forgave her and she opened her legs again for another man. Someone in the military doesn't need to worry about risking his/her life in another country and wondering if their worthless spouse is f#cking someone else. Too bad his wife can't be court marshalled.


And No I Dont Agree With "sadpatricia" Who Called Your Woman A Few Choice Names And Doesnt Even Know Her Or The Entire Story To Begin With. If Anything You Should Be Angry At Any Person On Here Who Disrespected Your Woman In That Way.

Why? She disrespected him by spreading her legs for another man, over, and over, and over again.....and again after he forgave her....TWICE.



Dont Try And Fool Anyone On Here


Speak for yourself. We are not of the cheater's justification ilk as you are.



You Are Just Venting. This "everything Is Always My Fault" Line That You Put In Your Post Im Not Buying That One Either.


so you don't think she said that to him? Why would he lie? Cheaters gaslight their partners all the time. I bet you did too.


Im Pretty Sure That A Woman Who Told You Point Blank To Your Face Everything She Did With Other Men Is Not Going To Point Her Finger Completely At You And Say You Made Me Do It.

On the contrarty, yes, she would. If I was to cheat on someone and didn't blame them a bit, why in the hell would i give out every little detail??

I wouldn't. only way I would is to rub it in their face if i thought they pushed me to it.



And If She Did Point Her Finger In Your Face And Say You Made Me Do It, Then Yes You Were A Fool For Not Leaving Then And There.


So this is how you treat someone that was betrayed and hurting. Berate them and call them a fool. Typical cheater.



2. Grounds For Divorce? Thats Up To The Couple.


No, thats up to the person who was betrayed.


Grounds For Divorce Can Be Anything But It Is Up To The Couple How Much They Are Willing To Put A Bad Situation Behind Them And Work For The Better.


You mean how like he forgave her, yet she kept cheating? That kind of "putting it behind them"?



If You Are Unable To Work Together For The Better And If You No Longer Love Her, If You Are Unable To Have Sex With Her Or Be Close To Her Ever Again, Then I Would Consider Divorce.


He needs to divorce her anyway. how many more times must he forgive her only for her to cheat again? She has already taken his forgiveness and pissed on it.



3. To Be Honest With You Buddy, I Cant Believe You Would Even Ask Number Three. Is What You Did Just As Bad? Yes, It Is Just As Bad, So Before You Go Around Pointing At Her For Being A Cheater, Remember That You Are A Cheater As Well.


I agree with you here.

however, after they both confessed, and he forgave her. He did not repeat the cheating. She did.



And No, I Dont Believe That Once A Cheater Always A Cheater Crap.

I do, and the fact that you spew your justification crap helps reinforce that theory.



What You Did To That Woman Of Yours Was Absolutely Horrible And Inexcusable. Why Didnt She Divorce You On The Spot For That?


On the spot for what? getting an erotic massage? She wouldn't have any moral ground to divorce him on the spot for that since she f#cked another guy.

it would be like saying, "I cheated on you first, but you cheated.....my cheating is justified, yours is not".

Get the f#ck out of here with your cheater apologist sh!t.

They both exhibited sh!tty behavior. They both confessed, he forgave her.

And she DID IT again and pissed on his forgiveness. end of story.



Theres A Question For You. Do Not Play The Innocent Victim Here


He never claimed to be as$hole.


And Finally 4. If You Love Her, You Should Do Anything In Your Power To Get Her Back.


Again, he forgave her, and she cheated twice over after. how many times must he forgive?



Thats If You Love Her, And You Want A Life Together And Are Willing To Fight For That Together.


He already displayed that by forgiving her. She displayed her utter contempt for his forgiveness and doesn't deserve to be taken back.



If She Will Never Hurt You Again And Is Really Sorry For What She Did, If The Pattern Was Broken And She Wants That Chance, You Should Give It To Her.


LMFAO. This is where you are delusional and cannot comprehend what was written. If she was TRULY SORRY for what she did, she wouldn't keep on doing it after he forgave her.

How stupid can you really be?


And For All These People Who Called Your Woman Names, They Are A Disgrace.


She is a serial cheater. An unscrupulous woman. Look up Merriam-Webster's definition of the word "wh0re" and take note of the #3 definition. It suits her to a T and is a proper description of her.

And of you. Whether you are a woman or a man.


Calling Names Is Never An Answer And Is Never Justified. Of All The People On Here Who Called Her Names, Are All Of Their Hands Clean?


yup, never cheated, never will. I'd consider myself the lowest scum on earth if I ever did. And it would be called humility. Obviously a lesson you never learned.



If You Are A Believer In God And In Miracles


Don't even take your cheater's justification crap and now claim to know God.



And You Are Willing To Take Her Back Into Your Life And For Her To Take You Back Into Yours, Then Good Things Will Happen.


Uh, he already did. And the good thing that happened?? She cheated again.


My Wife And I Cheated On Each Other

Then you are made for each other. Cheaters deserve each other and are saving 2 other people.

[MuffinMan]

Yeah I Bet You Dont Lie, Cheat Or Steal And Never Have. You Just Lied.


I know you want to think that everyone else is like you and cheats. But sorry to burst your bubble. Some people would never stoop to your level.

Do try again.

[MuffinMan]

anyone that would listen to an ounce of advice from you is a solid gold moron.


No, anyone that would listen to your cheater apologist bullsh!t is a moron.

[MuffinMan]

Skirt and Bree:
I guess I ruffled a few of "cap" happy's feathers...Wow, it must have taken a while to key like that...and he didn't double capitalize once! Thanks for sticking up for me. I'll try to not shoot off my mouth from the get-go. BUT, she does seem like a f***ing wh**re to me!

Its not name calling if the adjective is a proper description.

Check out description #3 on this definition.

http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/***** Only replace the asterisks with the word "wh0re" with an "o" not a zero.

[HitByABrick]

Those condescending A**h*les have no right to be in this thread.
Heres my stance. I have read all of this with replies from one Soldier saying to others here that its not the cheater but the victim that was also cheating on the cheater..as if ALL Victims are at fault.
This boils my blood.
I came to this forum on September 15 of this year. My head was spinning. My heart broken, I was in total shock, and even worse, my dignaty was destroyed.
This forum was and IS a great place to seek advice and to vent about your spouce...get this dudes who dont understand. We feel like we were Shat on by the one person who we trusted, loved and respected! It feels good to let out steam! It makes us smile when Sad or Muffin sets it straight or Cat when she clears the air and on and on.
Telling other forum members that they are the ones wrong and that they prob also cheated is a shocking assault. Let me speak for myself.
I have been with my wife for 13 years
I travel a great deal for work
I like to drink beer while traveling or at home.
I never cheated on my wife.
perhaps you didnt read that clearly enough
I have NEVER cheated or LIED to my wife.
Would you like to know why? Because I loved and respected her. I could NEVER live with that sort of guilt.
Here is another fact. Im no saint, im just a normal person.

I dont know if this is a real thread or not but it really ticks me off to see some idiot blasting anyone in their way with no facts...here is another thing you can try...read the other threads!
Have a nice night posters...:mad:

[xduffyx2003]

Thanks MuffinMan, I cant really say it better myself. What would someone have to gain by making up a fake thread? I really thank all of you for taking the time out of your day, and leave some much needed feedback. MuffinMan, your no dummy, that's for sure. Im going to take a little advice and continue to read forums.. It helps a little knowing im one of many in this position. Im not glad by any means. I was deployed a few times, and saw some crazy stuff. I had friends hurt, had to run for my life, and was taken away from my family for years. Nothing messed with my head more knowing my wife, who i loved very much, was with another man. Im at the point right now that im just full of a lot of hate.

and again, im sorry for the grammar.
im far from smart.

[Skirtchaser]

Yes Muffin's a wise and valued poster here.
In answer to your question, what would someone get from posting a fake thread here, I don't know. But there have been many fake posts here. Proof in point, the as.s hole FIVEO's response to your post. What did he get out of that?

[xduffyx2003]

It turns out that i did know the poster. She can be stupid sometimes.

[MuffinMan]

They both joined ll=10=08, could they both be the same person?:rolleyes: Naw, but it could be the om posting for his wife.

The ip addresses are not the same, nor is the server.

You could always go to www.hexillion.com and find out where the ISP's are of both IP addresses.

Could be that one IP address is home and one is work. If the ISP's are in the same vicinity, it could be.

Not saying they are the same person or they know each other. Just saying thats one way to find out if they are in the same vicinity.

[MuffinMan]

Thanks MuffinMan, I cant really say it better myself. What would someone have to gain by making up a fake thread? I really thank all of you for taking the time out of your day, and leave some much needed feedback. MuffinMan, your no dummy, that's for sure.


Well, I was a dummy and a fool when my realization of her cheating came about. Trust me I was desperate, was scared to death of the future of my kids, and I made up excuses to stay with her even though the sight of her made me want to vomit.

I know all of the emotions one goes through during the shock phase of finding out about an affair.

Then later, when the fog lifts, and I no longer have a feeling of desperation, I was able to think more clearly. I went out with the guys and had a few beers, looked around, got hit on by women and I thought, "this cheating b!tch isn't the only fish in the sea". So I divorced her.

Oh she begged and pleaded and even wanted to work on the marriage once I told her, "you are a cheater, and thats the way I will see you from here on out, so there isn't anything to work on. Go be some other poor slob's problem".

You may think you want to work on this marriage, but a year or two down the road you will be wondering why you are with someone so untrustworthy once the shock phase is over for you.

I think you need to start letting her know that you see her now as a cheater and haven't decided whether to put her on the street or not.


Im going to take a little advice and continue to read forums.. It helps a little knowing im one of many in this position.

That is for sure, we are right here with ya bud. It happens to the best of us and only the most worthless of individuals will cheat.



Im not glad by any means. I was deployed a few times, and saw some crazy stuff. I had friends hurt, had to run for my life, and was taken away from my family for years. Nothing messed with my head more knowing my wife, who i loved very much, was with another man. Im at the point right now that im just full of a lot of hate.


And thats the other thing. Do you really need to be deployed in the future and have your head clouded with thoughts of what your wife WILL be doing when you are gone? When the cat is away the mice will play.

[MuffinMan]

It turns out that i did know the poster. She can be stupid sometimes.

You knew what poster? HIFIVEO??

[breemood]

Well since the highfive ho is his wife, you got your answer to the troll issue. I don't know who did what, but I have a really bad vibe about both of you guys. She is an angry twit, who tries to equate cheating(conscious choice) with missteps and misdeeds. I am not perfect, don't claim to be. I got one hell of a temper, I cuss too much, I drink on occasion, and I have fantasies of ant hills and syrup. I tend to want things my way and I think that people who cheat deserve a special rock in hell to sit on.

Now you can take this anyway you want, but coming on here and hacking senior posters, only reinforces the character flaws that are so evident. I don't know what your H did to you, and I don't give a damn, you just proved that some of the stuff he said is more than a little true.

[Skirtchaser]

We luv ya just the way you are Bree. :cool:

[breemood]

We luv ya just the way you are Bree. :cool:

AAAWWWWW shucks, that makes me all warm and fuzzy.:p

[Skirtchaser]

I once petted a cuddly little fuzzy lion cub. I was thinking how sweet and innocent it was. I soon realized, Hey this things got teeth and claws. :)

[breemood]

I once petted a cuddly little fuzzy lion cub. I was thinking how sweet and innocent it was. I soon realized, Hey this things got teeth and claws. :)

I am woman, hear me roar:DOnly not tonight I have heart burn.:rolleyes:

[sadpatricia]

We are not whiney-ass girls. For myself, I am a complaint justified woman... I am all confused with this five-ho nonsense... I am afraid to air my many complaints and nuggets of wisdom to my equally unfortunate in love and marriage. Not to worry, my whineyassedness is already starting to get the better of me. I like you too, Bree!
sadpatricia

[xduffyx2003]

Thanks for the feedback guys, i really mean it. I think you know whats happening. I just think its sad that she is to bullheaded to see it herself. She needs to look outside the box.